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Non-fluffy pagans in the southern hemisphere
Ethics 
10th-Nov-2006 10:53 pm
going native
Would you do magical work on someone else without their permission?

What do you consider to be permission? Do you need a signed document or would asking and gaining permission in spirit suffice?

What about if someone you knew wanted to do magical work with you? Would you require an approach for permission or would you be ok with them asking you in spirit?

And if someone crossed your boundaries, what would you do?
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10th-Nov-2006 09:43 pm (UTC)
I won't interfere with someone without their permission, period. It must be explicit; verbally rather than with a notarized document is fine though. They can rescind this permission whenever they like. I'm not interested in violating people "for their own good". I try not to pry emotionally or psychologically either. I think it derails the healing process to be browbeaten with judgmental "help". When someone crosses my boundaries I extract them and thereafter avoid them. I tend not to discuss it; people who like to interfere with others can seldom be reasoned with.
11th-Nov-2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
Hi Tatjna-

In answer to your very thought-provoking questions:

”Would you do magical work on someone else without their permission?”

Yes. Not often but I have done this and expect I may do so in the future. With things like healing and such I prefer to ask first, but with stopping a jackass in his tracks, no permission is necessary. I do tend to think things through and consider all possible consequences before acting- I don’t do much magick in an “off the cuff” “spur of the moment” fashion. I also know that whatever I do- good or ill- is my responsibility and the burden and the repercussions are something I need to be prepared to face.

”What do you consider to be permission? Do you need a signed document or would asking and gaining permission in spirit suffice?”

This would depend on the person. If I were doing a binding or something against someone, I don’t need their permission. ;-) If it is for healing, I almost always ask. If they are the sort of person whose word isn’t their bond, then I’d probably not be inclined to do any spellwork or magick for them.

”What about if someone you knew wanted to do magical work with you? Would you require an approach for permission or would you be ok with them asking you in spirit?”

With me? Naturally they’d need my permission; I don’t do magick or ritual with just anyone. For me? It is up to them- if it is the beneficial sort of magick I welcome it, and appreciate the gesture, and will try to reciprocate in some way. I appreciate that they have taken the burden upon themselves, which includes any repercussions that occur in magickal work, good or ill. If they are working negatively against me- well, they’d not ask or share that unless they are an idiot, in which case I laugh at them and give them my magickal name/motto so they can pretend to be extra-special cool and powerful. Energy- even negative energy- can be used by a trained witch or magician.

”And if someone crossed your boundaries, what would you do?”

Oooh, now there’s a good question! I suppose it depends on the situation, the person, and the time frame. If someone invades my personal space I can get fairly defensive, both magically and with everyday means. I suppose, my first reaction would be to react- if had to react- in a more mundane fashion: I feel why do ritual if punching them in the nose will work just as well? ;-) (Not that I go around punching people; I’m sure you get what I’m driving at.)

Great questions! :-)
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